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Car stuff admin on 28 Dec 2002 12:57 am

Bad kitty?

So here are some words that, when combined, mean you will be spending some cash at the mechanic: “catalytic,” “converter,” “rattle.”

I heard the beginnings of a vibration a few days ago before I left to visit the ‘rents, when I got back today it was a full blown “what the hell is that” rattle.

Using my spiffy new flashlight and crack diagnostic skills I discovered that it was the driver’s side catalytic converter that was rattlin’ like a bastard.

The plan o’ the moment is to take the car to the shop tomorrow and see if they can slap on a new cat for something less than several hundred dollars. (Internet price: $270, each).

There’s also the problem of why the converter is dead, ‘cuz I didn’t smack it with a mallet so it shouldn’t be broken… survey says: meltdown, bad O2 sensor (or some-such).

I never trusted that O2 sensor anyway.

(Hey, here’s something fun to do with the climate control diagnostics. I’ll see if that works on my car so I can turn the climate control display into a digital tach. Woo!)

Update #1: Just ‘cuz the mechanic is open on Saturday it don’t mean that he can get parts. He took both cats off and they’re both bad. I figure I’m up to $600 easily assuming he can get the cats cheap and put them on in five minutes. On Monday he’s ordering the parts and doing further diagnostics. I’m betting that I’ll need an O2 sensor — at least $150 for that. I should be able to hit $750 without too much difficulty… stay tuned!

Update #2: Cheap parts, in Wisconsin, plus expensive labor(?) I’ve got new cats coming in on Tuesday for $190 a piece but they claim the time to install them will be 3 hours — which is total nonsense. Seems to me like I was there for a total of one hour on Saturday and they removed and re-installed both catalytic converters; or at least they claimed to. Were they lying on Saturday, or are they lying now? The saga continues tomorrow!

Update #3: Perhaps I shouldn’t have jinxed it by using the term “saga” in the last update — for now it has, indeed, become a saga. I should have my car back tomorrow (Friday). It seems that they ordered the wrong parts, specifically the version for the automatic transmission car, not the manual transmission car. So after they used a torch to remove the bad cats they discovered the new ones didn’t quite fit. This means that on Saturday they most certainly did not remove the cats to check them, like the guy said (but he wasn’t the actual mechanic who checked ‘em, so maybe he assumed…). It did take a good 2 1/2 hours for them to remove and install the (wrong) cats, so I’ll definitely get my money’s worth since they’re effectively doing it all again for free tomorrow. Meanwhile, I have a loaner deathtrap Ford Ranger P.O.S. It’s evil but not as bad as the Rent-a-Wreck I had once, because at least the truck has good brakes. It’s also got a cracked windshield, cracked driver’s side mirror, missing stereo, no functional interior lights except for the speedo & tach, no key to lock/unlock the doors, no knob for the headlight switch, no washer fluid, no leg room, a hood release lever that catches on my pants leg every time I use the (stiff) clutch, and an air freshener that makes my eyes water, gives me a headache, and permeates my clothes for 1/2 an hour after I get out of the vehicle. It’s also a joy to park in my teeny garage stall.

Update #4: Day 103, (or so it seems). The second set of catalytic converters is, again, not quite right. This time, instead of the whole header pipe/cat/exhaust pipe contraption, we just got the cats. Installation will require some custom exhaust work that they can’t do themselves so they’re farming it out to an exhaust shop. Got that news on Friday night. Drove home in the freakin pickup truck, again. Might get the car back on Monday or Tuesday; Tuesday would make it a whole week for my 3 hour install — I’m certainly getting my money’s worth there, especially if they eat the cost of farming it out to another shop. The price listed on the screen was $750, but of course none of that stuff is actually done yet. I called the Carousel Audi parts department, while I was standing right there at the front desk; the genuine OEM parts from the dealer would cost $1,958, and that ain’t including installation, so I shall press on with the $190 cats and the custom exhaust work, and the evil truck.

Update #5: Rocket Man. Got the car back Monday night, yeah baby! After I found the pedals and remembered how to shift I was immediately reminded why I drive a sporty car and not an old, beat up, crappy Ford truck; one reason is that 60 mph in the Ranger took a lot of effort and was accompanied by lots of shaking and rumbling — while 60 mph in the Quattro feels a lot like you’re going about 30 mph and is something you might accidentally do in 2nd gear. As I was leaving the shop I noticed, after a block or two, that the tach was indicating 4,000 rpm at 40 mph — sure enough, I was still in 2nd. I had gotten so used to all the rumbling in the truck that my shift patterns were all screwed up… it turns out that my car never makes as much racket (in any gear, no matter how fast it’s going) as that truck (in any gear, no matter how fast it’s going), so I’ve got to pay attention to the little gauges until I get used to the feel of the engine again.

My final* cost: $758.81.

* “final” — because despite numerous attempts to get them to do some diagnostics on the engine to figure out why the cats were bad, they never did anything about that. They also didn’t get me a quote about fixing the torn boot on the axle, despite a couple of reminders about that. This means that Eurotech will get the call. Eurotech doesn’t have loaner cars but it has a parking lot full of BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes, and a competent mechanic — any schmuck can bolt on a catalytic converter, or so you’d think, but when it’s time to fiddle with the engine it might be a better idea to go with the guy that works on the $50,000 cars all day instead of the guys that work on the Chevettes.

4 Responses to “Bad kitty?”

  1. on 30 Dec 2002 at 12:44 pm 1.Cavedog said …

    That car has really turned into a money pit huh? Still nursing the 10w-40 too?
    -e

  2. on 30 Dec 2002 at 3:40 pm 2.MostlyHarmless said …

    I haven’t spent much money on it at all for a number of months. The big money was back when I bought it and caught up on all the neglected maintenance. The trick is to sell it before the 90k mile maintenance. (Since I didn’t buy a $30k car I’m still well ahead of the game.)

    I figure I could use some fresh gaskets in the general vicinity of the oil pan, based on the overall oily appearance of the bottom of the engine, but that’s a known rate of oil loss so I’m in no big rush to fix that. I think it burns more (on purpose) than it leaks, anyway.

  3. on 04 Feb 2003 at 12:50 am 3.Vector said …

    Turned into a moneypit? Audis are born that way…

  4. on 04 Feb 2003 at 9:34 am 4.MostlyHarmless said …

    Heh… I just did the brakes too, and fixed the torn axle boot. That was another $719.12. $516.28 for the _front_ brakes + $202.84 for the axle boot.

    Total: $1,477.93.